We’ve tested a lot of shoes over the past five months but there are still many we’re expecting to see before the end of 2024. In this video (also the podcast), Tom, Kieran and Mike discuss the shoes we hope to see over the rest of the year.
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15:40 – Asics Magic Speed 4
18:05 – Nike Invincible 4
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Hey Tommy from the testers in this video We are going to taking a look at some of The shoes we're expecting or hoping to Come up across the next few months in 2024 so these are shoes that we don't Necessarily know know anything about but Shoes that we expect might be turning up Based on the lines and how often they Are released over the years so we're Going to be talking about some of those Shoes and what we hope to see in a new Version of those this video is also the Podcast as well so if you're planning on Listening to the podcast maybe don't Watch this video right let's dive in and See what we're all hoping to turn up Over the next few Months all right guys how's it going Yeah good really good really good well It is we're almost halfway through the Year now we've seen quite a lot of Interesting shoes crop up um some really Good ones some that were probably a bit Of a disappointment for us um but we Have another 7 months left of the year And there's a lot of shoes that might Appear um so in this video we're going To talk through some of the shoes that We know are coming or we we've heard Might be coming and some shoes that we'd Expect to be coming uh and I'm going to Be going through these shoes and we're Going to talk about what we our views on That the shoe if it exists already and
What we hope to see in the development Of a new version of that shoe um if it Appears in 2024 that sound Clear very clear do good good because I Came up with this concept quite quickly And I wasn't sure if it actually work All right so I have been through various Um forums I have been through websites Talking about uh shoes that are we are Expected to come up over the next year Some of them have been um confirmed some Them probably haven't been confirmed so Uh all of these shoes I should clarify We don't know anything about these shoes Um and anything that we're suggesting About them is based purely on our Knowledge of the existing shoe and what We'd like to see from these shoes so we Don't have any extra knowledge about What's going to happen with these shoes We've not had any you any information Sent to us this is purely the stuff that We think might happen all right so let's Start with shoe that uh well over the Past past year it's become uh well it's Changed quite a lot so the A6 Jano 31 um The as6 Jano 30 came out last year and It saw some massive developments on the Previous versions of the shoe what are Your views on the as6 jalano Range I Mean I think it was a step in the right Direction in terms I mean obviously in Terms of where stability shoes are going
Where support shoes are going I think it Was a a big shoe in terms of that Category in terms of how it delivered That support um and I think you know the The Kano has always been you know it's a An iconic kind of shoeline in as range And I think in terms of what it did with The 30 and where it took it I think it's Almost going to dictate all kind of Influence what we're going to see from Other support shoes going forward uh Particularly it's kind of what we're Seeing in terms of people kind of Brands Kind of delivering that kind of Stability in shoes now just in a diff Very different way to what we're kind of Traditionally used To so it's a bit it's a bit more subtle Right that was the idea is that it's It's basically making and this I think It's sort fascinating idea that we're Going to get you know everybody arguably Needs a little bit of stability in some Way or other and we're going to see she Manufactur trying to deliver stability That works with us and in a more subtle Way and I think the Kayo tried to hit That um I I found it you know to the Point where I don't I don't really need A stability shoe and there are some Stability shoes I'll run and I find them Quite interruptive if that's the right Word and the Kano I found quite easy to Run in as a as a non-step
Runner yeah the Um the keano 30 was basically a massive Shift cuz previously the keo's been sort Of the Big Daddy of full-on support um You sort of associated the older keos With having that really thick plasticky Medial Post in it where you know you Really know You' got stability shoe on But Cayo 30 was interesting develop Because it felt a bit softer it felt Like a normal shoe it's actually getting More like the Nimbus or shoes like that Um so to be honest I wouldn't expect any Big changes from the jailo 31 I think They've probably pushed it as far as They can at the moment I mean they might Get a slightly uh they might modify the Foam slightly but I think we're going to See a pretty similar thing to what we Saw with the nimus gel nimus 25 and 26 Where they probably play around with it A bit but I'm not expecting any major Advancements in in the new new version Yeah I think I think the key thing is Like you kind of said like that gel Represented how a Del that stability Support and now it's about delivering From different areas of the shoe and I Think ultimately it's about enhancing How it's delivering that structure Support from the different areas and the Different elements of the shoe I think More effectively and still offering a Ride that actually as Kieran said that
It can work or you know be usable for Someone that maybe doesn't need that Additional sort of kind of more Aggressive maybe more kind of prominent Support in a Shoe okay well uh let's move on to the Next shoe and this is one that I'm sure You're going to have many views on the Uh Hawker rocket X3 I know that's a few you've tested This haven't you Kieran yeah yeah um I like it I mean I I've been a fan um I know some people Aren't but I've whenever I've raced in It and I've wanted to go short you half Marathons those kind of things I've Found it nice and Lively and it's yeah And Punchy And yeah I I feel like it's it's a very Easy shoe to go and do those distances In it it delivers I whether or not it's Up there with the best sort of Super Shoes I don't know but it's got it does It does have this kind of sort of unique Kind of profile which is quite direct It's quite you know again reliant on a Rocker uh and I've always found it to be Quite energetic and it kind of meets it Fits my kind of style of running where I Want to feel a bit of ground contact as Well sometimes and feel like I'm sort of Doing some of the Work but with not they I think I guess The thing thr out there is whether or
Not in the changes they look at everyone Else who's got perhaps a bigger stack And it's a bit more kind of uh Trampolini and and those kind of things And they go actually we need to do more Of that I don't know But well they are trying a bit more of That stuff aren't they at the moment Mike yeah yeah I think that's the thing I mean obviously from the previous Rocket was a radical change in terms of That shoe and what we have now the Rocket X2 and I think if we look at Shoes that have launched since the Rocket X2 so things like the yell X1 the Skyward X where you know not necessarily The same shoe but in terms of of playing Around or you know in terms of how those Midsole makeups are I think it feels for Me with yellow X1 and the rocket X2 it's Almost like a vapa fly Alpha fly thing So whether they'll go down that Direction with this shoe or the next Version that shoot I'm not entirely sure I think they might try to retain it as It is and maybe just try to kind of Slightly improve the experience because It's a nice and light shoe it's got a Lovely enjoyable ride in it I I kind of Personally think maybe I would probably Kind of max out kind of Half Marathon Distance in it for racing but I think There obviously are people that have run Marathons in it um so I think it's about
Tweaking what H has got because I think In terms of what we've seen in the shoes Since then it's definitely being a bit I Would say a bit more adventurous in Terms of what he's doing with its mid Souls and in general with the kind of Makeup some of it's kind of more race Focused kind of fasting faster Centric Kind of Shoes I think they're going to stick More more f in It that's just as simple as that I think That CU because I think they made a good Choice moving it from the X to the X2 um But I think they're going to say well One of the big things that people said About it is it's not as bouncy as as as Some of the the bigger shoes out there So that would be my expectation the Thing is that that's something that you Know Mike's right you know people sort Of equate that shoe feels a lot of People sort of said it feels a little Bit more like the old Vapor fly and that Was a positive comment and that the VAP Three for some people me I I find it Lost a little bit of that sort of really Sort of stiff and slightly direct kind Of edge to it so it'd be interesting I Hope I hope kind of hope they don't I Hope they sort Of yeah maybe that sells more shoes if They do But all right let's talk about from ru
To a super trainer uh the New Balance Super comp trainer V3 you remember you remember the V2 I Remember remember the V2 I mean I didn't Absolutely love that shoe I thought I Would I thought I would um and I mean I Had been post kind of us kind of Reviewing on the channel I have been Back back out in it trying to I felt Like it was a shoe that should work for Me but like it just didn't and I think There was probably other shoes that come Out around the New Balance kind of range Around that shoe that I think probably Worked a bit better for those types of Runs I think I would turn to for the SC Trainer V2 so I think for the V3 I think I want to see it more in the kind of ilk Of something like the super blast where I think there's a bit of a better Balance in terms of that overall weights But also in terms of that versatility That you're going to get from that shoe I think I UL I didn't feel like I got That from the from the SC Trainer V2 um And I was really hoping I would because I felt like it it felt it would be best You know perfectly built for that but it Didn't quite work out and I think for The SE trainer V3 I'm hoping that it it Sits a little bit more in that kind of You know versatile super trainer kind of Mold which actually you're going to want To run a mixture of you know runs and
Paces in it and it will kind of deliver A really nice experience yeah I agree I Think for me that the way that I would Uh classify the the V2 is that it was a Little bit of A a sloppy super trainer for me it it it Was comfortable you could do a few Different things in it but it sat in This weird realm where I wouldn't use it for easy day runs Because I had easy day shoes that I Preferred for it I wouldn't use it for Faster training sessions because I just Have more responsive faster shoes that Did did it better so I never really Found a use for that shoe um it was Definitely approvement on the on the Original version which was very bulky And just wasn't great for long long Sessions but yeah I'd like to see a Little bit more pop in it a little bit More like it's moving towards like the Speed 4 or something like that where um Yeah you can use it for you know faster Stuff I think what we say as well is That you know you've got something like The 1080 v13 and you've got something Like the rebel V4 and those two shoes if You kind of combine those into an Trainer V3 and give you something that You can ease off but also pick the pace Up in then it would be the ultimate you Know it would be a great shoot we've L Those two shoes and I think an
Amalgamation of those two shoes would Make the ideal kind Trainer you I'm trying to have you no no Actually I don't think I didn't tried Either of the generations so yeah Not sure You' like those shoes based Bas On your preferences all right this is an Exciting one uh if it is actually ever Ever going to be released Nike Pegasus Turbo 4 so the earlier version the Previous version of this is probably not Technically the previous version that You would expect that was the Nike Peg Turbo nature next nature uh which is a Sho that used a reformed zoomx foam Recycled zoomx foam it was not in any Way a A progression of the original um Nike Turbo um but this new one the Nike pexus Turbo 4 that it would be very very nice If it was a progression of that uh what Was it Nike turbo two one and two they Were weren't they when they came out um What are your views on these shoes and What are you hoping from these I love Those Sho I mean I love the turbos back In the you know remember the pink stripe Down the middle sort of the tongue That's that's the right shoe isn't it That yeah yeah they were just oh they Were just I mean they were lovely I Think that was a shoe that you could do So many different runs in as well and They were nice and snappy they were sort
Of they felt super light really Energetic but not overly aggressive in a Crazy way they just they were just easy And I thought sort of effortless good Comfort on the foot they ticked so many Boxes like I I found myself running lots And lots of miles in those shoes across A range of paces and I I mean I yeah It's it's always been a question about Why they killed them off in the first Place I know some conspiracy theorists Thought that they were too good they Were too versatile so they weren't they Were trying to differentiating the mark The shoes this kind of um multi-talented Shoe stopped them selling other shoes But I I think if they're going to bring It back just bring it back as it was Well it's interesting to say so I Actually did do uh well last year I did A versus because I still got a fairly New might use it like twice the origal Nike Peg Turbo 2 um and I went out for Running it and it it it doesn't hold up Against I mean there there's probably an Element of it that it was it was a Couple years old but it it compared to Things like this s d speed three and Four it would it was just didn't have The same feel as those shoes so I think It will have they will have to do Something to it to make it match up to Those even if you put up against Something like the H five I tested the
Six it just didn't feel like it it had As much in it as as those shoes so They're definitely going to need to do Something with it whether that's just The progression of how zoomx is these Days but you know who knows they might Even put like a plate in it or something To match up with things like the the Speed for was it like meeting an ex Tom An old ex just I was I tested it during Berlin training so I was pretty fit I Was doing a lot of like intervals and Stuff and I ran in it I thought this Just feels like a normal shoe I was Expecting so much I was so exciting to Excited to put it on cuz I forgot I it Was in the bottom of my drawer and I Thought i' still got those I I bang them Out although the ones were nicer than The twos from from my memory I think the Twos did lose a bit from from from the Original one the original one I got Loads of my first Ever 40 minut I think that's what I wore From my first ever sub 40 10K with you Actually k um yeah so um so I love that Shoe but I think the two did lose a bit But yeah it wasn't it wasn't as uh it Wasn't as enjoyable as I was I was Hoping and that's it can they recreate The magic I mean I don't know and you Know back then obviously I think a lot Of people loved them and maybe it's Things have moved on now and
It's maybe they shouldn't bring it back I don't know I really like the geometry Of it I quite like the overall kind of Shape of the shoe and everything it was Another one where it was unfussy when You put it on and it just you know the Platform felt just right in terms of the Width and the weight And yeah can can they recreate that with New phon risky isn't it it's risky cuz If it's not not as good as people Remember and to be honest it's a bit of An unfair comparison these days cuz People are looking back going it's the Best you ever um but to bring to bring The new one out and people go no don't Like it cuz I saw what happened with the Next nature um even though it wasn't Really direct uh development uh all Right here's here's a good one for you Uh I think Mike you're the only tested The original the asex magic speed Four yeah I mean this is a shoe that a Reiteration I think clearly aex has Listened and tried to you know really Take on board what this sh needs to be And you know it's very much in that Speedy daily trainer criteria and I Think from the first shoe I think it was A good shoe but it was a lot it needed To do it massively improved in the Second version and then I think the Third version we got something that you Know is what we wanted in terms of that
Kind of partner shoe for of as kind of Like you know top tier Racing shoes that It has and you could do your speed you Know Speedy sessions in that shoe and it Was a really nice experience so I think You know when you look looking what you Know aex has done in terms of the Met Speed Sky Paris we all kind of love that On the channel we've all kind of running That you know we know we can we can see What aex can do in terms of speed shoes And those faster shoes and I think with The magic speed four I expecting big Things because I think you know also Seeing in terms of what they're doing With the super blast and that being a Kind of a surprise hit for aex as well They've got these shoes around that kind Of quicker Tempo um kind of category Where I think like you know having Something it's going to be a lot closer To things like the Endorphin speed the Max 6 well I think the magic Speed 3 was A quick shoe maybe quite maybe not quite There in terms of the versatility of Things like the speed 4 and the Max 6 But I think there's all the PO marks out That aex can make this stand out kind of You know uptempo daily Trainer shoe uh Like the ones to match the ones we Really Like Yeah It's Tricky one though with um Aex now because theyve course launching The super blast too at some point so
They've got they're starting to get a Couple of shoes that are difficult to Choose between although I don't know What the price would be for the I'm Assuming the price superl 2 when it Comes out will be quite pricey but this Magic speed is a bit cheaper isn't it or It was magic Speed 3 yeah Thing sorry Mike no I was going to say That's the thing you know that Affordability point of view as well Having those shoes at that price point Around things like the new B Rebel V4 It's you know but it's it's good value So hopefully they can maintain that for When they decide to launch the update to That Shoe okay what About this is going to be an area of Debate Nike Invincible 4 as a shoe that Over the past few versions I think the First time it came out everyone was so Excited because the concept was quite Weird like you know zoomx F in a massive Daily Max cushion shoe and then since Then sort of got less and less excited As new versions come out what what do we Want to see from the uh into ball Four should I I don't know whether I Should say anything about this we need Jane on This it's a funny shoe because I talked To a lot of people about it and you know
There's so many people will be like I Absolutely love they'll tell me I love This shoe this is one of my favorite Shoes ever and for certain group of Runners it's it's got that kind of Following it's got like a bit of a cult Following they really really love it and I just couldn't get along with it and I I one thing I wanted to see changed I Just found for start that the big kind Of wide it was almost like when you look Down it like a sort of hexagonal Platform it was just too wide and I felt Like it was too interruptive it kind of Made interfered with my sort of natural Gate and it was a bit too clumpy and a Bit too clunky and but I think all of Those things that I don't like about it I would like to see improved are the Things that other people really love About it so yeah I don't know I think That's another one where they probably Shouldn't change too much I think there It's one of those in danger that you Might actually alienate the people who Are very very very fond of that shoe and It does a great job as it is is there Are some shoes that you think actually Can you you know should you just leave It as is and I maybe that's one of them I think that the Invincible has got a Bit of an identity crisis over its Development when it first came out the Whole purpose of that shoe is just to be
Ridiculously soft and bouncy and Enjoyable and fun but obviously when you Do that you end up with a lack of Stability so you start adding more Stability elements in and trying to like Beef up the shoe a little bit so that You it's bit more table so in in reality It's become this sort of weird mix of The two um and I I want it to be softer I just wanted to go as soft as possible Um with a little bit of Bounce in it Because that's essentially what I use That shoe for really slow runs I just Want to go out and you know do a 5 10K And just enjoy it but what it's doing Now is sort of it's not being a Particularly good soft cushion shoe and It's not being a particularly good Versatile daily shoe so I think it's got To make a call which where which way it Wants to go uh orth if it stays the same I think it's going to it's going to Struggle yeah and I think the the best Way to I I kind of think about it is That when we we're having this Conversation between ourselves about the Shoe that it the category that it sits In it we I kind of forget about it I Kind of forget about it because I think There are other shoes that can do that Job in a slightly better way and I think Ultimate that's what Nike has a problem With you know there's that thing they've Kind of tempered what the the first
Version really offered and I think as It's evolved it's maybe not evolved but Maybe in the right way I think there's Every opportunity for them to make this I think when you see what's happening in This space with these types of shoes and They've got you know they've got an Amazing foam there so they can Absolutely they're absolutely capable of Doing that um and yeah I'm I feel like This would be the ideal shoe for me but It's it's just not a shoe that has Worked its way into my rotation and I Know loads of people love it but I think There's yeah I think you're right I Think maybe there's a bit of identity Crisis maybe they need to just kind of Strip things back get back to what the Invincible really you know really stood Out for I'd love to know how many They've sold because I bet I bet you It's a popular shoe oh yeah yeah yeah Ian just it's just look because people Want Nike and it's got a massive stack In it so you just you can go into shop And go that's for me like do you I mean Does it you know the shoe that sort of Jumps to mind is like does it where does It fit up alongside I'm thinking other Things that maybe moved it on and people Thinking about the the Skyward X or Whatever is that and am I putting that Well I've not used skyex but I I doubt I Sincerely doubt it it's comparable with
That Shoe um I think you're looking at things Like the 10 the I think things like the N the 108 B13 that's where it should be And I feel like that's the category Should be talking more about it but I Feel like we haven't really and I think There's obviously reasons for that so Like you said Tom I think like they Almost need to simplify things and be Very clear about what that shoe is about But people will still buy but maybe just Enhancing experience of what you should Get from that shoe what needs to happen It's a very expensive shoe for a shoe That's Got difficulty explaining what it does And why you'd buy it um but so from from The Invincible to a shoe that I'm very Excited about New Balance more V5 now I'm quite worried about this because Three and four are like two of my Favorite shoes uh the the foam the Fresh Foam um I can't freshx in that Sho but Basically the the New Balance more V3 When I tested that I wasn't expecting to Like it cuz I didn't like the 1080 V 11 And 12 uh because that foam in it is Just really firm I just didn't get Anything from it it wasn't comfortable It wasn't soft it was just like a Balanced foam that was had a little bit Of firmness in it and as a result it was Just like a nothing shoe like it didn't
Really deliver it wasn't a great daily Shoe that you could do verstile training It wasn't particularly cushioned but the New band small V3 has the same foam in Because it's got loads more foam in it It just works it's just a bit just feels A bit softer um and the new BS M 4 is Pretty much the same love that shoe I'm Worried that the new bals M 5 is going To use the same Pham as 1080 v13 and It's going to be way too soft because It's because it's a Mac stack shoe so I'm quite worried about what's going to Happen with the uh Mv5 I'm going to keep my mouth quiet Because maybe I might have know a little Bit right okay yeah yeah yeah moving on Moving on moving on all right ah okay Right final shoe uh and this is one that Um I I would definitely say is due a big Update it's the um Sak kvara Pro 2 oh Wow okay what do you what do you I can't I can't remember Karen you T this one Because I think you had a different view To Me um what can I say about the cavaro Pro I my abiding memory of this shoe When we tested it I actually took it out And as one of three shoes that I used to Run the Berlin w 100 miler last year and I chose it primarily because of the that Big sort of soft cushion stack that I Thought would offer some comfort overall
And I I used it as the middle shoe I Think for about 30 Miles I can't remember my first shoe I Think I've gone from one of the on shoes And actually yeah the noticeable sort of Change and in when I used that it was it Was too much it was too soft it was I Found it sort of it sort of two sort of Dragged me down I I didn't get on with It at all it's a what I kind of think I Found it okay but a bit a bit too much Sh on the foot overall um and again I Don't know I'm not quite sure where it Sits I think there are other shoes Within the range that can do its job Better at at easier Pace um and for a Range of runs with versatility So yeah I wasn't yeah I I would have I Wish I had taken a different shoe for That middle section I think is what I'm Saying got Mike I mean it was that kind Of Max stack super trainer that wasn't Much of a super trainer although I spoke To someone was very super was it um I Spoke to someone recently who did R Marathon and that was the choice that They went for and I was like I mean that Wasn't sure I would have recommended but Uh I remember just take it out for a Track session expecting it to and I just Remember getting to the end of that Session and it just feeling so heavy and So and I think that you know obviously These Max stand kind of super trainers
Are here you know we've got the prime X2 Got Skyward X you know so there are Shoes and there are examples of it being Executed really well um so I think the Shoe can work it just I think it needs a Lot of work and I think that you know They would have listened to the feedback And I think that to have something that Can part better partner uh or be you Know equivalent or you know alternative To things like the speed for those Lighter kind of you know less kind of That lower stack kind of cushion Compared to something on the conar pro I Think there's room for it it's just yeah It need definitely needed work uh almost Like back to the drawing board for me Because yeah it wasn't really a convar And it really wasn't a shoe that stood Out for the right reasons yeah I don't Think there's any an issue that's Confused me more over the past couple of Years than the canara pro I don't I Don't know I I don't know why it is Called canara I don't know why uh what It was designed for I don't know why They used that foam in it um the only Thing I can think of with a confar pro Is that um I mean talked about was with Nick on the video the other day we're All pretty much the same weight so maybe There's something about that phone that I'm just not getting from it but to me It just felt like a big clunky clog um
And I raced in it I just didn't didn't Get anything from it so have all the Shoes you've discussed I think this is The one that's probably likely to see The biggest changes um based on what They did did before um and you know if They want to make it more like a super Blast something like that they a lot of Work to do to to to to make it that a Versatile shoe that's fun to to run you Know easy and and fast fast sessions in Um all right I think that'll do this for Now there actually I've got loads more So we can probably do another podcast on These if people actually people actually Listen to this um but I will just caveat Again all the stuff we spoken about in This video we don't know anything about So um all of this is purely conjecture Based on our knowledge of the existing Shoes and what we want to expect from These shoes so as soon as we know about Them as soon as we can talk about these Shoes in the future we will let you know On the channel but uh at the moment We're just shooting from the hip Basically right uh catch you guys later See you see you later that's it for Thanks a lot for watching don't forget To like subscribe click the little bell And if you go to the cat below you can Find link to the podcast version of this Podcast as well as all the other Podcasts that we release on a twice
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