The Saucony Endorphin Pro 4 follows the hugely popular Endorphin Pro 3 and adds a new dual-density midsole foam. That midsole combines a top layer of the bouncier PWRRUN HG foam used in the Endorphin Elite with a bottom layer of PWRRUN PB used in the Endorphin Pro 3. Saucony has also added a new sockliner into the shoe to add even more bounce to the ride.
The Wave Rebellion Pro 2 is a race shoe that Mizuno says is designed for elite-level runners aiming to get a sub-2-and-a-half hour marathon time. Like the Wave Rebellion Pro, it features one of the most noticeable shapes to be found in super shoes, with the bulk of the midsole foam positioned in the centre of the shoe.
Tom has been testing the shoes out to see how they compare.
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Hey Tommy brother in testers in this Video I am going to be doing a Comparison of the mauno wave Rebellion Pro 2 and the sakon and dorphin Pro 4 Let's dive in and have a Look the sakon Endorphin Pro 4 costs £230 or $225 it weighs 221 G or £78 Oz for men In a size 8 and the drop is 8 mm the Mauno wave Rebellion Pro 2 cost £210 or $250 it weighs 214 G or 7.5 Oz for men In a size 8 and the drop is 1.5 Mm the sakc Endorphin Pro 4 follows the Hugely popular endorphin Pro 3 and adds A new dual density midell phone that Midell combines a top layer of the Bouncier power and HG foam used in the Endorphin Elite with a bottom layer of Parum PB used in the Endorphin Pro 3 Sakon has also added a new sock liner Into the shoe to add even More Bounce to The ride in addition there's an updated Ltis outsole rubber design to improve The grip a new lightweight mesh upper That aims to improve breathability and Minimize material and a slightly Modified heel design like its Predecessor the shoe still uses sakon Speedroll geometry to promote a fluid Transition the wave Rebellion Pro 2 is a Race shoe that Muno says is designed for Elite level Runners aiming to get a sub 2 and 1/ half hour marathon time like The wave Rebellion Pro it features one
Of the most noticeable shapes to be Found in super shoes with the bulk of The mid cell phone positioned in the Center of the shoe that midle is dual Layered with the lower layer being the More responsive Muno enery light and the Upper the softer bouny Muno Enz light Plus of which there has been more added Than in the previous version other Updates include a redesigned carbon Fiber wave plate to improve speed a Slightly wider base to increase Stability and the shoe gets rid of the Cutout midsole section seen in the Original The upper has also been modified to make It slightly roomier and there's an Impressive layer of G3 outso rubber for Grip and Durability so f for me in these tis Shoes The Mao wave Rebellion Pro 2 uh I'm a size eight8 in the UK this is size Eight I found it to be absolutely fine In my UK size there's plenty of space in The for foot of this shoe um and around The side of the forefoot as well so um Worth taking consideration if you have Wider feet it's probably on the uh Bigger side of Super Shoes I haven't had Any issues at all with the fit apart From there's there's not a lot of Padding around the heel section and it Can be quite hard to get a lock down fit When you first start wearing the shoe uh
Once you've sort of got it right and You've got a lock down fit in it it's Fine and I've not had any issues in it Since but just take that consideration When you're trying to use this shoe um And also based on the fact that it has This sort of weird midso in it U which Is a little bit unstable it's really Important to get down lockdown fit in This shoe because otherwise it can be a Little bit of a precarious shoe to wear The S dorphin Pro 4 size eight again I've had no issues in this shoe at all F To be very comfortable much like the Previous uh s Dophin Pro 3 um there is Plenty of space in the 4 foot for me um And it was very easy to get lock down Fit in the shoe so I would stay to my Size in the S dfin Pro 4 okay so these are two very very Different race shoes the um s endorphin Pro 4 I'll start with that so I've um Mentioned the Pro 3 on many many videos I've ran most of my PVS in the S ding Pro 3 I've raced some of the biggest Marath things I've ever done in that Shoe and I absolutely love it I think It's one of the best Super Shoes out There if you're looking for a really Good natural balanced feeling shoe uh You want a bit of Bounce you want a lot Of comfort but also is going to give you The versatility run over dist distances With a nice natural feel so Dophin Pro 4
Uh is pretty much a continuation of that Concept um but it does have this new HG Foam layer that sits in it and for me uh That has added a little bit of firmness To the shoe uh which does make the ride A little bit different so um it works Better for running faster in so when You're picking up the pace in this shoe Um it's it's got a little bit more Pickup than the uh sock indorfin Pro 3 But if you're running at a consistent Pace over a marathon uh and um you Really enjoyed the feel of the soc DF in Pro 3 because it was nice and soft and Balanced um you lose a bit of that with This shoe so um I've still I've not used This for a marathon yet um but uh I have A feeling that uh it may not be as good For me over Marathon distance as a sorin Pro 3 just because it of that HD layer Of foam which does make it a little bit Poppier but a little bit less enjoyable At a consistent cruising Pace uh during A marathon um but it's still very Natural feeling shoe it's definitely one Of the most natural of the Super Shoes Out there there's it doesn't feel like It's really making your foot do anything Uh so the Endorphin Elite really does That that's that's the other s side of The spectrum that's really just pushing Your foot forward um with this sort of Propulsive toe off um whereas this is on On on the more comfortable side it feels
A little bit more like a daily shoe um It doesn't feel weird to run in this Shoe uh and it's very accessible for People that maybe don't want to go all Out and get a shoe that's very very uh Feeling much like the Muno wave Rebellion Pro 2 now this shoe is a very Interesting shoe uh and I love this shoe For certain types of runs um it's an Interesting shoe because the way that They've designed it is they sort of Chopped out the front and back sections Of the shoe so the bulk of the Midol Stack and there's a lot of Midol stack In here sits in the middle of the shoe Um and as a result uh it has it it's m Massively impacted by how you land in The shoe if you land it in the forefoot Obviously you're not going to feel the Big bit of um m foam in the middle if You land on the heel you're obviously Going to be tipping forward onto that Midsole um stack in the middle I land Exactly on the highest point of the Midle um and when I'm running at a fast Pace and I'm tipping forward a little Bit more I can really feel it pushing me Forward bit of bounce off the mids fo It's a very very enjoyable sho shoe to Run in over uh if I'm doing it at really Quick turnover when I'm running a slower In the shoe so if I'm um going for an Easy run if I'm running at I did half Mar this year as well which was very
Very hilly um that Mell phone doesn't Work particularly well because um I'm Not tipping over in in the way that it Works best so I get the trampolini Effect of bouncing off of it um but it's Not I'm not feeling this sort of rolling Action as well especially noticed it When I was running uphill in the half Marathon because what was happening is I Was hitting the midle um this this Midsection of the midle and it was just Bouncing me up as I was going but Because I wasn't really rolling forward Cuz I was going slowly and going uphill I didn't really get the main benefit of This shoe so I did find it was almost Slowing me down in in that run so I Definitely would uses half marathons or Marathons at the pace and the style I Run at in those those distances um but For 5Ks and 10ks an interval sessions And things I absolutely love this shoe It just works perfectly for the way that I I run and just feels like I'm bouncing Um forwards with every step and just Works really really well at tipping me Forwards um so very very different shoes One which is very natur natural and Accessible for for pretty much all types Of Runner uh and then one which probably Is only going to work for certain types Of Runners and I'd be very careful with This shoe because um I think for a lot Of people it's probably not going to
Give an experience that people Necessarily get used to very easily um I've been quite lucky with this shoe and The previous version that the way that I Run hits that mid sole just perfectly But um I think that some people might Have uh an issue with the shoe if they If they don't run in a way that the shoe Wants them to run in uh other than that I think the outsoles on these shoes are Very good the uh updated outsole on the S doph Pro 4 is very very good um on wet Ground uh no issues with it at all the Outs on mauno wban Pro 2 is also really Really good have had no issues at all With the grip on this shoe um over wet Surfaces it feels very very good the Only thing I would say about the shoe is That because of the way it's designed um It it's not the most stable shoe out There um and I'd be very careful running In this shoe um because one you've got a Really high stack but also you've got This this strange design so you can put Your foot into a position that isn't Doesn't feel that comfortable if you're Not running it in it the right way so It's well worth trying this year on if You're going to give it a Go okay my verdict on these two shoes so I would say that the uh it's a tricky One because I I really like both of These shoes um I think it really comes Down to the type of run that you are
With these I don't think one issues is Better than the other for everything I Think so Dophin Pro 4 is very accessible Very comfortable very natural feeling Shoe um and you can't really go wrong With it I don't think it has the Excitement of some shoes like the Nike Alpha fly 3 um or early Alpha flies uh Or V flies things like that it just Doesn't have that sort of uh bouncy Propulsive feel of those shoes but it's A lot easier to get used to you can go Straight from uh it's it almost feels Like a daily shoe uh and it feels very Comfortable you could use this for all Different types of runs you do get the Best out of it when you're running Faster because of that new HG foam layer Um and for some people if you're used to Using Super Shoes like the Nike Alpha Fly range this may be a little bit Underwhelming because it doesn't really Give you really noticeable performance Benefits um which you're getting you get From those shoes but it's very Accessible very comfortable and um Definitely a good one for people if it's Your first um carbon plate shoe the Mazo Wave Rebellion Pro 2 is not an Accessible shoe it's a shoe that Probably is only going to work for Certain people for me it works Brilliantly over 5K and 10K I really Enjoy shoe I find it to be one of the
Most fun shoes out there it's like a Trampoline if you hit it in the right Place um but I think some people whether That's because you don't land in the Right way you might be a heill striker You might not um get the benefits of the Shoe I know Nick quite likes this shoe Um but here's a bit war of using it um But if you may be uh in need of Stability or something I think you're Probably going to this is a risky shoe To wear just of the way it's built I Don't think the stability elements the Shoe particularly well made for people That need stability so um it's a bit of A risky shoe for a lot of people and I Think it's worth trying this shoe on to See if it works for you before picking It up because um it it just might not Work for you um and uh yeah so for that I'd probably say the safest bet is a Soc Dophin Pro 4 um but if you really want To have a bit of fun and try a new Innovative shoe Muno W Bing Pro two is Is worth a look that's it for me on this Versus thanks a lot for watching don't Forget to like subscribe and click that Little bell and check the channel out For all the other videos we've got Coming up and if you the catch below you Can find a link to our podcast which Comes out a couple of times each month Thanks a lot for watching catch you next Time